So why not do that? I can believe why it took them time.I guess I should point out that I'm not a diehard Michael Jackson fan. There's bro do you have a timestamp on the HOUR LONG VIDEO you linked?? I think I would not feel different if it was not about MJ but someone less known like in 'hiding in plain sight'. And this one sure did. It’s doubly weird because one of the victims testified in favour of MJ in 2005 and then against him in recent years, including this documentary. The bed they are talking about is a bed the size of a room. Blocked in UK,USA,Canada Mirror: Leaving Neverland (Part 2) (2019) - Controversial documentary from the 2019 Sundance Film Festival, bring forth new allegations towards Michael Jackson as a pedophile.

What has Wade gained now? Part 2 is on tomorrow, and I'm sure it'll leave me with just as much a gut punch as the last 2 hours or so did.TVNZ in New Zealand has the whole thing on demand so I was able to stop and start it. When the 2 men describe their sexual experience, it was very particular and specific. Everyone on this documentary look the same. One of the biggest inconsistencies was Jordy Chandler(first accuser) saying he was circumcised when he This was sort of misrepresented, though. I suppose that's how the filmmakers wanted you to feel, sad and aware, but I dont know that I could watch it again. Fantasy is powerful. What happens when the doc is released? The estate also says the FBI investigated him over 10 years, but in reality they only assisted and it was one year, then 10 years later one year again.I don't think we'll ever truly know one way or the other but most of the things you mentioned were explained and even had their day in court.the stories are so similiar to the smallest detailsBut a lot of the details were also inconsistent. I don´t believe a single word out of the Jackson estate either, they say its a money grab but they themselves fought over the estate money just a couple of years ago. I don't know, another commenter mentioned Jussie Smollett and I think it's time people stopped believing things automatically and actually required evidence.The reason the R. Kelly doc was impactful is it actually had some evidence. ... help Reddit App Reddit coins Reddit premium Reddit gifts. I also watched the same disenegration s his celebrity faded into a morras of weird surgeries, rumors and accusations of pedophilia, and flirt with bankruptcy.

The mothers, the boys.

Likely by the same people that ran Jordan Chandler out of the country...there is still, BTW, a MASSIVE bounty for paps to get a single photo of Jordan.

He's not exactly a no-name to industry insiders.Neither Wade nor James expect to get $1+ billion. There is no proof he did it. I think the tone fit and they did well editing, following the timeline and switching back and forth between everything. But I sure as hell am done with listening to him sing, “We are the world, we are the children...”I grew up loving Michael. People decide they want to believe something because it's seductive to them (perhaps they feel powerless), or support a person because they like him, and when confronted with clear evidence that those beliefs are absolutely not true, or that that person is a piece of shit, they I sincerely believe we need to restructure human societies to account for this phenomenon if we ever hope to progress as a species.

As you saw in the film, he choreographed Britney (incl Wade and Amanda tell you in their own words why Wade slowed down at work. Justice was denied to Jackson's victims because of a media & prosecution that were more interested in grabbing headlines & making names for themselves than in punishing the guilty.Both can be true. Shadiest shit ive ever seenThis is comming from someone who loved his music, listened to it hundreds of times. I think it should be investigated more but now he literally can’t defend himself legally. They have all the power, money and lawyers in the world against a little kid. MJ spend hours and hours over months grooming the mothers and pretending to be their friends.I think Dan Reed did a great job focusing the story solely on the boys and their families and really getting into what abuse looks like and how it manifests. They also told it in different ways. I initially believed MJs relationship with kids was as he described.. because of a lost childhood, after the documentary, not anymore. It's going to be rough but I'm glad conversations are being had.It has always been incredibly transparent how public opinion did a 180 on Michael Jackson after his death.I remember when MAD Magazine did there 20 dumbest things of 2009 and that sudden reverence for Jackson took the number one spot. 122min - 175357 views To be honest, I used to be skeptical about the abuse allegations, especially after I read Both CAN be true. I have a hard time believing they got together to make up something this real.I can believe why they denied it earlier in life. The beat it cover from Folie A Deux is a guilty pleasure though.New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be castPress J to jump to the feed. MJ loved these boys and they loved him too.

But comparing them that one was better; so I'm going for 7-8 out of 10.It's tough. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Explains the extreme self-destructive behavior. When he died, it was a shock to my world.I believe these men. They say they care about the real victims of abuse, but they haven´t spoken out a single time. He worked the camera while interviewing the two men and there was only one other person on set working the lighting. Use evidence from public court documents? r/LeavingNeverland: Discussions and content relating to the issues and allegations made in Leaving Neverland and related matters. A good documentary leaves people conversating afterwards.

That many accusation, the stories are so similiar to the smallest details, he admitted to sleeping in the bed kids.

That's so considerate and awesome of him to just create a safe area for them to speak.except dan reed cut the UK version down almost 50 mins shorter leaving out all of the parts that were proven false. Michael Jackson’s personal and professional lives were filled with countless peaks and valleys. What James & Wade detail is incredibly harrowing, playing it straight down the middle and just having them recount it verbally to the viewer...it's powerful stuff.

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