The ESV has been a superb translation for me in my memorization of the NT epistles, as was the case for your friend that you describe in Chapter 6 Argument 7. But not at the ultimate point: no English translation can claim perfection or inspiration. The NASB is declining in popularity probably because of how difficult it is to read. Even the New World Translation, with its purposeful twisting of John 1, still contains precious truth.Wow, I thought I was the only one who struggled with this. By the way, I grew up on the KJV and still find myself quoting it more than any other translation.Eric, I also grew up with the KJV and I also find myself quoting it more than any other translation, but I learned more than half my lifetime ago to “translate” those quotations for others on the fly.I like your comment about not trying to sound so spiritual. 2.
For instance, “And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver’s beam.” (2 Sam 21:19, KJV)“brother of” is in italics, meaning the KJV translators added this to their text. Rather than allowing me to work through possibly difficult metaphors or phraseology, or to understand what it meant in the Hebrew or the Greek, they wanted to “dumb it down” for the masses. Our body hands these out or gives them away to anyone. And wow—you put me to shame. Until the twentieth century the philosophy of Bible translation was to translate the Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek words of the Bible into the closest possible equivalent in English. If their quality as translations is more or less equal, on what basis do I choose?Because they are similar in the most important respects, I felt free to make my choice based on more pragmatic considerations:Other pragmatic considerations may lead you a different direction—for example, your church may use the NASB (as mine does). And I think we should make the most of it, even be glad for it.Nonetheless, more power to you in loving and knowing a good translation like the ESV.I’m so glad you wrote this as it’s literally what’s been in my head for the last few weeks as I’m transitioning into a new pastorate and want to promote a primarily translation for our church.
What becomes your “primary” Bible may have a lot to do with your particular calling and circumstances. I’d much prefer using a “stable” Bible like the NASB, NKJV or even the NIV.Joe, you’re a good Bible reader. In English the verb has to be stated explicitly in those cases, so English translations rightly include it. Having gotten back into religion a few years back, after many years of being pretty blasé about it (thank God for bringing a woman into my life who makes me feel both very blessed & loved), I have spent time with the NIV & NET, before recently deciding to look closely at the ESV & NASB. Since this post is dated you may know that with the NASB 2020 talk from Lockman (another NASB translation “update” I understand the ESV has had 3) The 3:16 bible publishers 316publishing.com/contact/ have come into existence, I have been told there are others new publishers committed to the NASB 95. I confess I could not find an official source for this, but I’ve heard it repeatedly over years, and I did see people saying it elsewhere on the internet when I searched just now. I was born in 1970 to Indian parents. But, my wife got me a new ESV Study Bible for Christmas cause I had been talking about trying a ESV. I later went to the NKJV as I understood it better. The ESV is more consistent than the ESV. I tend to prefer (for reasons I’ve given above) the ESV. It is an original and new English translation. They are gorgeous.It is my understanding that Crossway paid a lump sum to the NCC. I read it right after reading D. A. Carson’s book on the KJV debate.Great comment.
I understand the text regardless of the translation I’m reading but I think it comes down to when I’m reading through an entire book of the Bible or extensive reading. The italics aren’t really accurate in that case.As for 2 Sam 21:19, that’s a good example of the usefulness of italics.
"produced with the conviction that the words of Scripture as originally penned... were inspired by God" (NT based on the Traditional Textus Receptus; readings with weak support are indicated in footnotes. What a good problem to have! I think we’re stuck with a multi-translation situation for the foreseeable future. (Please post comments of your own findings below. We need to recognise that, by handing over the publishing of OUR Bible to others, we have enslaved ourselves to the oppressive academic/ business cartel! I do refer and quote the others in preaching along with the Amplified version for a further breakdown of the verse (this is only used if people can see the verse, such as power point.
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